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Phat Cat Refresh

A refresh of the Phat Cat designs. Humbucker-sized P-90s are a product category offered by a number of different manufacturers and yet, when someone is asking for a recommendation, Seymour Duncan is rarely part of that conversation. From a forum member: 1. Not 'meeting expectations' when most players get one expecting the classic Gibson A5 type P-90 tone which other HB-sized P-90's try to emulate. LP's SG's, 335's, and hollowbodies are probably where most end up, and to me, not where they perform best. Not sure what the goal was, but there's a lot of untapped potential with Phat Cats with winding and magnet combinations. I hate to see them on the backburner when Duncan should have some of the best sounding HB-sized P90's on the market.

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Sting Hammond (Research Associate)

I'd love to see more humbucker sized P-90s, something more vintage Gibson sounding with more rawness or at least a different neck pickup.

posted 531 day(s) 15 hour(s) ago..

Peter Drescher (Principal Researcher)

I'm going to try a pair of Lindy Fralin P-90's on one of my guitars, I keep hearing that their quality, does SD have something with that sound?

posted 537 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago..

Nick Gee (Research Associate)

The Phat Cats are great, but we do need some more options. Especially a vintage correct sounding version is missing. Maybe even break it down in Alnico 3 and 5 versions? Throw in some hot version too. Voila, the Phat Cat Three, Phat Cat Five and the Hot and Phat Cat.

posted 537 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago..

Philip Kerns (Research Associate)

In addition to redesigning the Phatcat, SD should consider making multiple varieties of HB-sized P90s - such as vintage-voiced, Alnico II and Alnico 5 versions of the standard, and a variety of hotter pups for rock and metal players. I have been a long-time fan of SD, but in this particular area is a weak spot compared to competitors like Bareknuckle.

posted 537 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago..

Brandon Hathaway (Senior Researcher)

I may be alone here, but I love my Cats. They ride in an Epi dot, and while they don't necessarily sound exactly like a vintage P-90, they have enough of the vibe, and all of the raunchiness, I want from them. If you want the exact sound, tone, and feel of a P-90, bust out your router and commit. Me? My broke ass wants a strat-sized neck model. Someday, Seymour. Someday.

posted 537 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago..

Bill Gross (Research Associate)

I love my PC's

posted 537 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago..

Kevin K (Research Associate)

A lower wind on the neck model would be a very welcome option. I know there's not much room for wire under the cover, but a little beefier bridge, combined with a lower wind neck, would be terrific!

posted 538 day(s) 8 hour(s) ago..

The open cover (p94) always looked nicer than the full covered models too. This might be to much of a stretch but using some of the hum-cancelling tech that is in the vintage stack pickups in a HB sized p90 would be a cool pickup as long as it still sounded like a good p90.

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Magnus Nyström (Research Associate)

Totally agree!

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Warren Kayser (Research Associate)

I just ordered a set for my new ES-Paul. To me They sound very thin and brassy. I have a set of Gibson T-94's on another Les Paul and compared them side by side and much to my surprise, the Gibsons sound much better. I too am searching for the true P-90 tone. These are the first Seymour's I've been disappointed with. They have to come off. While they were very reasonbly priced,Looks like I wasted $150.00. Now Iam searching for some new humbucker size singles that sound like p-90's.

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Michael Vande (Research Associate)

Whoa YEAH! Do something more than make a 'bucker sized single coil, make it sound like a REAL P90!

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

David Gonsalves (Research Associate)

Agree with Christopher.....Alnico V's for me too ;)

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Christopher Garrison (Principal Researcher)

Forgot to add, you should make phat cats with swappable mags

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Christopher Garrison (Principal Researcher)

Switch in some Alnico 5s and I'll be a happy man

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

I've had a set of Phat Cats in a 2007 Gibson SG Standard since 2012 or 2013 and they sound good, but it just isn't the tone I'm after. I've played lots of SGs with Gibson P-90s over the years and I really wanted that tone, but with the little extra something I've come to expect from SDs. I've been trying to decide between mag-swapping the Phat Cats or just trying something else for quite a while; only my lack of funds is holding me back at this point. What I'd really love is a humbucker-sized SP90-1 Vintage P-90 set.

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Shawn Soens (Research Associate)

I use and love the Phatcat Pickups. If you want to mod with different mags or winds then I would rename it and use both versions. If you have ever played a Hamer Newport with Phatcat you would know what a match made in heaven it is.

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Brian Varhelyi (Research Associate)

agreed, how the heck do we vote?

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

eric harper (Senior Researcher)

I exhausted my magnet collection (a3, a4, a5, a6, even a ceramic) trying to get a more robust sound out of my phat cat. Sadly a GFS resides in the bridge at this moment.

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

ID Snowdog (Principal Researcher)

I would like to see vintage, hot and custom versions of humbucker sized P90's.

posted 538 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago..

Trey Haislip (Principal Scientist)

I agree 100% and also would like to add that it would be nice to get a Phat Cat in other colors besides just gold and chrome (black please!)

posted 538 day(s) 10 hour(s) ago..

Trey Haislip (Principal Scientist)

I agree 100% and also would like to add that it would be nice to get a Phat Cat in other colors besides just gold and chrome (black please!)

posted 538 day(s) 10 hour(s) ago..

Scott Olson (Research Associate)

Great idea!

posted 538 day(s) 10 hour(s) ago..